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		<title>By: Panos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Panos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; we stated that the spec has areas that can result in different behavior in corner cases but both Hibernate and Toplink Essentials passes the TCK thus are both spec compliant. 

Max, yes, you are right, you clarified that at the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; we stated that the spec has areas that can result in different behavior in corner cases but both Hibernate and Toplink Essentials passes the TCK thus are both spec compliant. </p>
<p>Max, yes, you are right, you clarified that at the end.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Nice writeup, thanks for giving us a taste of what&#039;s happening at devoxx !

On the subject of VisualVM I think there&#039;s a typo:

&quot;For explicit jmx agent connection use: -J -Djconsole.plugin.path=path to the jconsole plugin&quot;

I believe the jconsole.plugin.path is here to specify the path to the legacy jconsole plugin that you would like to import into VisualVM. You would also need to have downloaded &amp; installed the JConsole plugin container from the VisualVM update center - see
https://visualvm.dev.java.net/plugins.html

Cheers, 

-- daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Nice writeup, thanks for giving us a taste of what&#8217;s happening at devoxx !</p>
<p>On the subject of VisualVM I think there&#8217;s a typo:</p>
<p>&#8220;For explicit jmx agent connection use: -J -Djconsole.plugin.path=path to the jconsole plugin&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe the jconsole.plugin.path is here to specify the path to the legacy jconsole plugin that you would like to import into VisualVM. You would also need to have downloaded &amp; installed the JConsole plugin container from the VisualVM update center &#8211; see<br />
<a href="https://visualvm.dev.java.net/plugins.html" rel="nofollow">https://visualvm.dev.java.net/plugins.html</a></p>
<p>Cheers, </p>
<p>&#8211; daniel</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun,

Just to be clear we stated that the spec has areas that can result in different behavior in corner cases but both Hibernate and Toplink Essentials passes the TCK thus are both spec compliant. And if you move between providers don&#039;t just do it blindly - make sure you test it ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun,</p>
<p>Just to be clear we stated that the spec has areas that can result in different behavior in corner cases but both Hibernate and Toplink Essentials passes the TCK thus are both spec compliant. And if you move between providers don&#8217;t just do it blindly &#8211; make sure you test it <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Panos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Panos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Shaun, actually I didn&#039;t ask the question, it was someone else from the audience.

Alex said that he never used EclipseLink so he cannot commend on that. When he referred to incompliances he did it with regards to TopLink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Shaun, actually I didn&#8217;t ask the question, it was someone else from the audience.</p>
<p>Alex said that he never used EclipseLink so he cannot commend on that. When he referred to incompliances he did it with regards to TopLink.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find Alex Snaps&#039; response to your question about comparing Hibernate with TopLink or EclipseLink a little funny.

&gt;He’s never used Eclipse link, he’s used TopLink and he saw that it
&gt;doesn’t implement the specification properly sometimes.

TopLink Essentials is the JPA 1.0 reference implementation and EclipseLink is the JPA 2.0 reference implementation.  We&#039;ve had developers migrating from Hibernate to EclipseLink discover their code didn&#039;t run because EclipseLink was very spec compliant.  Perhaps Alex misunderstood our lack of support for Hibernate-isms as non-spec compliance? ;-)

--Shaun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find Alex Snaps&#8217; response to your question about comparing Hibernate with TopLink or EclipseLink a little funny.</p>
<p>&gt;He’s never used Eclipse link, he’s used TopLink and he saw that it<br />
&gt;doesn’t implement the specification properly sometimes.</p>
<p>TopLink Essentials is the JPA 1.0 reference implementation and EclipseLink is the JPA 2.0 reference implementation.  We&#8217;ve had developers migrating from Hibernate to EclipseLink discover their code didn&#8217;t run because EclipseLink was very spec compliant.  Perhaps Alex misunderstood our lack of support for Hibernate-isms as non-spec compliance? <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8211;Shaun</p>
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